No wall of text here, just a simple question. A clear one sentence reply would benice.

Edit: Since i've gotten a few replies suggesting that this is a thread about how safe high sec needs to be... let me add the following to my original question: Do we really need high sec at all or (as someone recently pointed out) what is the point of having multiple security levels when we can have just one big battlefield?

SoGǪ to disprove that it's all about PvP, you list a number of PvP activities?

Idgi.

-2 corps mining in same belt after the same thing, PVP!
-2 people manufacturing ame thing to sell in same region... PVP!
-Research: researching things to make manufacturing cost less and to make more items faster than the other guy, PVP!
-production = manufacturing
- Trading... lol yeah, no PVP there at all!

The point of high sec is to give the illusion of security. Why do you think people buy insurance? (ingame and RL)

Awww...did the widdle bunny **** you off mate?

My logic is that they're all PvP.

Mining GÇö competition for resources, player vs. player.
Manufacturing, research, production manufacturing again GÇö competition for slots/moons, a means to provide an edge inGǪ
Market GÇö competition for best purchase and/or sale price, player vs. player.

GǪnot to mention that all of the above only serves to feed the demand generated by combat and destruction.

At no point are you competing against any kind of GÇ£environmentGÇ£ or NPCs, only against other players.

There are exactly two things in EVE that are not subject to PvP: GÇ£accept missionGÇ¥ and GÇ£complete missionGÇ¥ (GÇ£abandon missionGÇ¥ might have counted if it weren't for PvP being such a common reason for people using that button).

But then you're not really answering the question. Combat is as much a part of highsec as of any of the other sec levels, and the activities you listed are as much a part of the other sec levels as they are of highsec.

You're making distinctions that aren't really there.

Of course it is. Read what you quoted again.

My brother got blown up once in like 4 or 5 years playing. He was in a low sec system. He ragequit and to this day, for him, EVE i a game full of gankers.



I was suicided once in hi-sec. I could only laugh that someone would blow up my barge, only to be blown up by concord immediatly after. I thought it was pretty silly. It was in fact the very first time I ever lost a ship.

The second time I lost a ship, was in null space. That was also the last time, but not the last time someone tried.
I don't do pvp, I've never fired a single shot at another person in fact. I often think about it, but then I'm like, meh, to many clickies.

The thing that bothers me most is that you people insist that carebears are being blown up constantly; all over hi-sec. As if CCP doesn't have data to the contrary, and I'm confident that it is in fact contrary. Or that some of you will constantly harp on the, "they need to change it or everyone will leave!!"

Games been this way for 9 years.
Stop being liars. No one likes liars.

While I agree with you.

I think you'd be better off picking up a hooker. I won't tell you to /wrist or anything like that. To be honest, I'm going to kill myself instead. Good luck in life, just know you have blood on your hands.

When I read your post I go the impression you were making statement that you shouldn't have to pvp if you want.

People have this tendency to get blown up once, and then all of a sudden the games full of gankers. EVE isn't the only game this has happened in, but it's one of the safest.

I'm on a lot of drugs, so how the hell should I know?

Most people do, yes. The rest whine.

No, they do not realise it was meant to be a tutorial area.

The whiners think it's a PVE server in the middle of the sandbox.

What's a "play style"?

What other purpose would it serve in a sandbox game?

You were asked to clarify your statement. What do you mean by a "play style" in this context?

The buckets and spades are identical in all EVE with a handful of combat ability -related exceptions, which exist to keep hisec a safer area for new players to learn the game.



There is no consensus in this thread.

You are still referring to some obscure "play style" concepts like they would mean anything to other people.

Or maybe you can tell what is my "play style"?

Or then you just realized that here is no such thing outside your small mind, and try to cover your obvious inability to convey your simple thoughts of what it could be by zero-content unfunny replies.

CCP should stop reading GD.

Personally I think they should move 4/10s and L4s to lowsec and buff their rewards, change NPC corps to have graduation, buff CONCORD and make hisec a lot smaller, but none of this increases the subscription base and that should be the motivation behind changes. You can't always do the right thing and please the masses

All I wanted is to see you try and apply your vision of this "play style" concept to a sandbox game, and explain why "play style" would dictate reactions to hisec as you stated.